Curse

Winston · Dec 13, 2006, 05:01 AM // 05:01

I was thinking of this build on my drive to work today. It's primary use would probably be for 'Tombs', or any other places where Barrage is effective.

Start by dropping a Conflagration Spirit.
Hit grouped foes with Mark of Rodgort.
Spam Barrage.

I'm thinking this would cause the usual devistaion from Barrage, with the added effect of Burning from Rodgort's.

Firstly, is it that simple? or am I missing something?

Alternatively, you could just use a Fiery bow string, and not bother about Conflagration, but I like to use Vampiric when Barraging.

Your thoughts?

kratimas · Dec 13, 2006, 05:54 AM // 05:54

That sounds like a great idea. In tombs I think it would be great. -7 degen would really speed things up I would think. I will give it a try.

Krat

Dr Strangelove · Dec 13, 2006, 07:58 AM // 07:58

It's much easier to bring a fiery bowstring.

If you really miss the damage from the vamp, bring conjure flame and glyph of lesser energy to help out with energy.

mr_groovy · Dec 13, 2006, 09:15 AM // 09:15

Very Nice man, But could you first check if there's no other thread about it like mine ^^.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10077416

Winston · Dec 13, 2006, 10:53 AM // 10:53

Sorry mate

Wasn't trying to steal your work or anything, like I said, just thought about it while I was driving.

XvArchonvX · Dec 13, 2006, 04:33 PM // 16:33

R/E builds with Conjure Flame and Mark of Rogdort work pretty well in PvE, but keep in mind that if you use this in Tombs, the Orders necro will be pretty useless to you since Orders only affects physical damage.

lennymon · Dec 13, 2006, 05:27 PM // 17:27

I'd assume that the orders still work when you use conjure since it just adds fire damage right?

Edit:
Basically though, people tried it out a year and a half ago and found that mark was too expensive to be worth it, the more recent update which both dropped the cost and made it aoe renewed its use, the idea IS an old one though and it works well. My point is that IF anyone thinks you are stealing 'their build' they are likely delusional, its an old one.

XvArchonvX · Dec 13, 2006, 06:26 PM // 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by lennymon

I'd assume that the orders still work when you use conjure since it just adds fire damage right?

Nope, if you hit a foe with anything other than physical damage, then Orders will not trigger. Unfortunately, since you need to deal fire damage for Conjure Flame to work Orders will not stack with this skill.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Vampire
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Conjure_Flame

Grammar · Dec 13, 2006, 08:21 PM // 20:21

The first thing I did when I logged onto GW for the first time after the last big update (when Mark of Rodgort and Glyph of Lesser Energy were buffed) was change my Ranger's build to Barrage+Mark of Rodgort+Conjure Flame with a firey bow string.

-Barrage
-Conjure Flame
-Mark of Rodgort
-Glyph of Lesser Energy
-Savage Shot
-Favorable Winds
-Troll Unguent
-Rez Sig

The second thing I did was go and get Flail for my Warrior, Dismiss Condition for my Monk, and Searing Flames for my Ele. Nightfall skills FTW!

ClarkeDodd · Dec 13, 2006, 10:02 PM // 22:02

when i barrage i do not put any skills in wilderness , just full out marksmanship + exp with the rest in bm. why bother waiting 3 seconds for a +8/10 regen for a bit when you can leave points out of wilderness and evade/block 75% of attacks instantly

Kumlekar · Dec 15, 2006, 04:13 AM // 04:13

as was said above, this cancels orders. But that might not be such a bad thing. Orders don't stack now, so if you can break +21 damage (17 for OOV, and 4 for Winnow) the build would work. It still needs tweaking though.

Winston · Dec 15, 2006, 07:03 AM // 07:03

I tried using just MoR and a Fiery bow string, with 8 into Fire Magic (3 seconds of burning). I found it was quite good, the hex lasts ~20 seconds which is more than enough time to kill a group.
With the other B/P's doing the usual thing and me doing the above, we were able to dispatch groups quite quickly without too much fuss.
We ended up losing 2 B/P's during this run but the remaining 6 quite easily went on to kill the darkness'.